The real cost of being sued by Getty
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The real cost of being sued by Getty

As reported here and elsewhere, a UK removal company was recently sued by Getty Images for unauthorised use of a single image on its website. The company settled out of court, agreeing to pay Getty £1,951. But that is only the tip of the iceberg. The actual costs of this dispute are shockingly higher.

Punishment by Google

A substantial hidden cost turns out to be the potential for damage to the reputation of the company, a small family-based firm for whom integrity is an irreplaceable asset in a competitive market. Their representative would only speak about the subject on condition that neither he nor the company were explicitly named here. Google is the reason. If any customer or potential client were to Google the company name, reports of a court case might raise eyebrows : could this company really be trusted? That alone might sway them toward a competitor.

Unfortunately the cat is out of the bag. Reports of the case have proliferated wildly around the web, not least because so many other individuals and companies face Getty's allegations of infringement and threats of legal action. Still, not wishing to add further punishment by creating more Google fallout we will not mention the company by name, although it is who you think it is. We will call the spokesman Mr X. It's worth it, to hear what he has to say as a paid-up "victim" of Getty's infringement pursuit.

Legal costs

Mr X has no wish to stifle discussion and no argument with reporting of the case, quite the opposite. He thinks people need to understand exactly how much trouble infringement of copyright can land them in. He says that the legal costs of achieving the settlement amounted to around £24,000, a debilitating amount for a small company that now "has us all working twice as hard just to make up the loss". Had they not had access to a friend who was a barrister, had their legal team not fought so hard to challenge Getty's escalating claim, or had the case actually gone to trial "it could easily have been twice as much, or more".

Mr X doesn't know why his company was singled out for legal proceedings, "we just drew the lucky ticket". So far they are the only known instance of Getty following through on threats of legal action. The ingredients of his case are typical, involving a freelance web designer commissioned to produce a new company site. Among the company's own photos there was a gap for an image to convey to customers the security of adequate insurance. The designer found a smiley image of a mother and daughter somewhere on the web that he believed it was OK to use. Barely larger than a postage stamp on screen, this stayed in the published version when it went live as "everybody just forgot about it".

A few months later Picscout found it and a letter from Getty's lawyers arrived requiring payment of some £1,700.

Wisdom of the web

The company says it removed the image immediately and turned to their web designer for help. He looked around the forums and found many others in a similar dilemma. He also found vast amounts of conflicting opinion and advice, anger at what many described as extortion, and acrimony directed at Getty's "scam". It seemed to many that having taken down the offending image, Getty were on thin ice with their threats, that their claims were inflated beyond all reason, that no court could possibly impose such damages for what many asserted were minor, accidental infringements, or images supplied by others and used in good faith.

Mr X ploughed through all the debate in the Federation of Small Business (FSB) forum among other places. He found recommendations for a company called Limeone, who some users had paid to write to Getty's lawyers and no more had been heard. Many believed Limeone to be offering a sound legal strategy that was defeating Getty's claims, an impression that Limeone allegedly encouraged. Mr X paid up £165, Limeone sent a letter, and he believed that was an end to the matter, until the summons arrived.

At that point Mr X finally sought the opinion of specialist copyright lawyer Micheners, who were blunt : it was an infringement, Getty had a cast-iron case in law, and the best and only sensible course was to pay up. Since the case was now headed for the High Court, that meant reaching a settlement with Getty's lawyers to deflect the costs and risks of losing the case.

Which is what happened. Because by then Getty had hired barristers and prepared the case, the original £1,700 claim had become 5 figures. How much exactly? Mr X is hazy, pleading post traumatic stress. He says the entire management of the company can hardly bear to talk about the subject, and his boss flatly refuses to discuss the episode. But at that point their costs began to spiral. They too had to hire a barrister in case negotiation failed and the case went to trial. And that is where £24,000 went, on the legal fees of both sides.

The bill

So this single photo cost the company around £26,000 in total, for a photo that Mr X thinks Getty would have licensed for about £160. Like most people he knew little about copyright beforehand. He says the main reason things worked out so disastrously was reliance on "bad advice" so copiously available wherever the legalities of the Getty demands were being discussed.

Mr X now has some hard-won wisdom to offer others who find themselves on the receiving end of a Getty demand : "pay it now, or urgently get specialist legal advice". Once Getty get to Court "there is no limit to what Getty want to do to you". As a global business with vast resources and huge losses due to infringement, Getty are out to make a point, and you will likely end up footing the bill.

Mr X also advises against any course of action that might risk infringement. "Do not put anything on your site but your own images. Do not use anything found on the internet unless you have cast-iron permission. You would be better off paying a professional photographer to take images for you, just so you know whose material it is".

What of Limeone? Mr X was advised a case could be mounted against them for their part in the saga, but it turns out that the assurances allegedly given were purely verbal, over the phone. There is nothing on paper at all, save the letter that was sent to Getty and proved as useful as a chocolate teapot.

There is also the possibility of suing the web designer, whose inclusion of the photo sparked the trouble. "That's a 'would you sue your grandma?' question" says Mr X loyally. "He's not a big company, he can't afford it, he's one of us, we like him and we like his work, he just made a mistake. So no, we just want to put this down to experience and move on."

The 150-page FSB forum "Getty Corbis" topic wherein these matters have been discussed at such erroneous length, is now restricted to FSB members only. Wisely, the moderator has finally curtailed the mass public improvisation of copyright law, and now states in large bold type : "You are strongly advised to seek your own qualified legal advice on this matter." Better late than never, then, except for Mr X.

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Yes D, some or all of those things together with experience should qualify you to develop a website.... And minimally an HND is really the basic that should be required of anyone offering their services as a professional web designer... Or of any other professional creative...

"It is true that paper trails and litigation may not be known by the moonlighter. But it by no means makes them any less qualified than your self. Please turn you anger of lack of busienss to something else than people trying to make a living."

How bizarre...  

Let's just follow the logic of what's written here...  According to you D; it's true that moonlighter's might not know the basics of the job to the extent they may place themselves, or more likely their client, in the position where they face legal bills in the £25K+ region...  BUT  that fact doesn't make them any less qualified to take on the work than someone who is properly trained and does know how to manage these risks and doesn't play fast-and-loose with their client's interests or put them at that risk!!

What's more (again; according to what you've written) those in the latter category (i.e. legitimate professionals)  should turn their anger elsewhere than those who are generating a price advantage through evading the overheads associated  with doing the job properly....

I suspect that to most people of reason this twisted logic will leap off the page as just that...   This is as absurd as suggesting that 14-year-old joyriders cruising the streets at night are no less qualified to drive than legitimate motorists! Perhaps we should all get off their backs too?

Proper, legitimate, qualifications are the starting point for anyone wishing to enter a creative profession. Coupled to experience they warrant an at least baseline level of knowledge of the matters that are not always aparent from a superficial study of the subject in question. They are certainly no guarantee of vast expertise; but they do at least offer some assurance that the holder has at least enough knowledge of the subject not to be rendered dangerous through ignorance...

Which is just one reason why my own company insists on a minimum HNC from even the most Junior trainee! 

I'm afraid most (if not all) those so-called "professional web designers" who landed themselves in this mess have not the slightest whisper of a grain of an excuse. Failing to properly assess and clear copyright on a piece of IP is such a fundamental error that to make it is quite simply not competent!Likewise failing to read or understand inadequate license conditions...

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What qualifies anyone working professionally in any sphere is expertise. That means knowing the law and legal pitfalls as well as how to reliably and safely service clients' requirements. This applies to any business, all of which are regulated by all sorts of laws. Ask you local corner shop.

With web design, photography and most creative industries formal qualifications are not mandatory, as they are for being a gas fitter, pilot or brain surgeon, where "trying to make a living" in these areas without adequate knowledge will kill people. But a web designer or photographer who lacks a thorough understanding of copyright law (and also privacy law, contract law, tax law etc.) are a liability to themselves and to their clients.

As for designers who find themselves in trouble having sourced images from freestock or some of the dodgier microstock libraries, or included in free templates, common sense suggests you get what you pay for. Anyone can upload anything, whether their own work or stolen is not vetted by the library, and the T&C generally make it absolutely clear that using any image is at your own risk. There's nothing "professional" about any designer who's ignorant or negligent enough to ignore all that. Sometimes they'll get away with it, but if they don't it is nobody else's fault.

There is a rarer instance, where a license has been legitimately obtained elsewhere than Getty. Of course Getty demands are then invalid. If the designer didn't keep a licensing papertrail, surely they at least recorded the cost of the license in their accounts. By law, they're required to keep their accounts, invoices and receipts for 6 years. From these records they will be able to discover when they made the offending site so should be able to see where the image came from. Unless you're telling me that these "professionals" evade tax and don't keep accounts, as well as stealing other peoples' work?

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Well to tim and others, if you have followed this case at all you will note that lots of professional web designers have been affected by this getty cause.

And as to qualification please clarify what makes you qualified to develop a website? A degree? a HND? an NVQ? 5 years experience?

It is true that paper trails and litigation may not be known by the moonlighter. But it by no means makes them any less qualified than your self. Please turn you anger of lack of busienss to something else than people trying to make a living.

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Surely this is more an issue of not getting professional advice when things go wrong than it is an issue of Getty's charges. Getty's original claim seems a reasonable charge to me. The larger costs arose from the failure to take proper legal advice.

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We operate a freelance design studio with decades of real world professional experience at the game.

We are constantly faced with clients that refuse to pay legitimate licensing fees for existing work, won't consider the cost of original work yet tell us if we don't use work product they have found for 'free' on the internet we're not doing the job they are paying us to do.

In each and every case, if the client persist on using the 'free' work product we resign the account.

This is typically followed by two surprises.

The first that we would pass on 'good money'. The second comes when we hear from their new lawyer about copyright problems.

Really sad part is the attorneys representing these former clients don't understand copyright law either.

In each case I'm reminded of a quote from Will Rodgers:

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves.

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'Educate the public! The Getty/Corbis thing is simply a classic example of what happens when you employ cowboys! And people need to be left in no doubt that this IS what happens when you hire chancers....'

A point I've been trying to make on the FSB forum is this:- for a business to be successful in the complex modern world you need to be expert on employment law, health and safety, risk assessment, bookkeeping and accountancy, and much more. Why oh why do normally sensible business people then go to schoolkids and incompetents when it comes to designing their interface with their highly valued customers? Its a bit like coca-cola leaving their advertising budget in the hands of the CEO's 11 year old cousin.

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We were al ignorant once it's true. But before donning the mantle of professional we each went out and learned our respective trades properly...

 In the case of this designer one gap in his knowledge has been revealed. How many others lurk beneath the surface. Then there is the broader issue of responsibility falling on the right shoulders..

 

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I pretty much agree. Still, I think  there is a crucial difference between malign  opportunist exploitation (see numerous rights-grabbing contracts, etc) and ignorance. We all start out ignorant. Ignorance is fixable through education, and I wouldn't think this site worth doing unless I thought rehabilitation was possible.

In the case of this company and this designer, I don't detect any malice. The education has proved needlessly costly, but they are certain never to do this again.

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 "This is as much a Darwinian process as the elimination of so many professionals who do know what they're doing but are now priced out of the thin-stretched food chain. All the triumphant crowing about "beating the pro's at their own game" is delusional nonsense if it boils down to cheating clients and thieving other peoples' work. "

And for what reason should true professionals accept this?

For years I've been VERY vociferously advocating the use of only trained qualified professionals in appropriate roles. And actively 'blackballing' moonlighters and those who act to undermine other professionals. In the video trade we have a particular problem in so far as there are at least two organisations offering sham 'assessment' provessed leading to pseudo-academic 'letters' that cynically ape the achievements of those who have gained their wings through legitimate academic endeavour...  The wedding trade in the UK is virtually dead to legitimate producers...  To the point where most don't dare touch it for fear of being lumped in with the cowboy 'videographers'.

My solution is to simply freeze them out; and freeze out anyone who has any truck with them. And to take EVERY opportunity possible to expose them for the frauds they are. Give them no quarter.  And I take the same tack with cowboy web designers, Pseudo-SEO gurus, Snake-Oil business 'experts' or whatever....

 Educate the public! The Getty/Corbis thing is simply a classic example of what happens when you employ cowboys! And people need to be left in no doubt that this IS what happens when you hire chancers....

Tim's right. I'm grateful to our 'trucker' friends for being brave enough to explain the full gravity of what's happened to them. But equally well they should realise they're in trouble because they hired an incompetent and dangerous pseudo-professional. One that has no moral right to remain in practise. And yes; they are schmucks for being an apologist for him....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I think that's a bit harsh Tim. What's happening is that the web has radically lowered the cost of entry to publishing. We're all at it, making sites to display our work, posting blogs, pontificating about copyright. But we're old school, with dozens of years experience of mainstream media between us. We know how to avoid libel, infringement and so on, and why we have to.

But for most people there is competitive pressure to participate even though many people do not have the resources nor expertise. It's like mobile phones in the late '80's, if you don't have a site and a Twitter account, nobody will take you seriously. The result has been a dramatic abandonment of professional standards and ethics, along with any  understanding of the legal framework that regulates behaviour. It's all dull, boring, seems irrelevant and just hard work.

Of course netizens can easily undercut pro's who've invested time and capital in these supposedly obsolete arcanities. Newbies can be cheap or free with their skills for all sorts of reasons - it's part-time fun, they don't need to make a living, it's pro-lite. Moreover they are inclined to take more notice of their peers and a sort of myth has emerged that the web is different from real life, with different rules or none at all.

We've seen this democratisation of access have dramatic results. Photography, web design, writing, music, film, publishing are all now things that supposedly anyone can do with trivial ease, so anyone does, with sometimes crass ignorance and dire consequences. Then they complain bitterly that the world doesn't work like they thought it did.  The rules haven't changed at all, they are as they always were : you f$ck up in business and you can lose your shirt or even your house. Doing it from behind a nickname and IP address changes nothing at all.

Participants in this culture are going to have to educate themselves PDQ. This is as much a Darwinian process as the elimination of so many professionals who do know what they're doing but are now priced out of the thin-stretched food chain. All the triumphant crowing about "beating the pro's at their own game" is delusional nonsense if it boils down to cheating clients and thieving other peoples' work. 

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